Exciting “NEW” off-roading video

Off-roading at its best!!!!

This is a new video compilation of the off-roading experience. If this doesn’t excite you enough to call the DEP and demand that this activity be stopped on our public lands I don’t know what will.  This stuff goes on all the time in the Pinelands, day and night, and almost totally unabated.  The Pinelands is viewed by this group of users as a motor sports arena, it is the WILD WEST out there. It has become the playground for 4 x 4 trucks (Jeep types especially), dirt bikes and ATVs (all ATV use on NJ public lands is forbidden). Let the DEP know that you wish to have our public lands returned to their original purpose of preservation and passive recreation.

11 thoughts on “Exciting “NEW” off-roading video

  1. I find it interesting that there are opinions like Matt’s that crossing water in a vehicle doesn’t cause damage. If your vehicle is modified for water crossings and all seals and gaskets are 100% functional, that would be true. But as a former “wheeler” I’ve seen the oil slicks on the water after a group of vehicles cross a pond, pool or river. I’ve also seen an oil pan get ripped off a heavily modified CJ7 in a pool and the resulting mini environmental tragedy.

    I’ve spent time in the back country of California and see how their 4wd community works in partnership with the authorities. In many places there are designated off-road areas with strict rules to prevent environmental damage. The Park Service in Death Valley has a Facebook group where the Rangers and the community report on back country travel conditions. I’ve even heard that the 4wd community helps with enforcement in an attempt to keep the few idiots from ruining it for everyone.

    It’s a shame that government and the community tend to take on such adversarial roles in New Jersey causing this issue has become so explosive. No one wants to deny rights to another human, but those rights should not harm others or the environment. That water out there is the water we drink. That environment out there is precious and we need to make sure it is still there 1000 years from now.

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  2. Just like gun control you can’t punish everyone because of a few irresponsible people.This can be settled when people who care look at both sides get together with law enforcement and stop the destruction of our pine lands .everyones pinelands cool heads together folks the state government doesn’t care

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  3. No one is suggesting that people like you and your family are causing the problems. It is the people in the video, and the other hundreds of them on YouTube, and large caravans of 4 wheelers, that are causing the problem. I too enjoy four wheel driving in the Pinelands, the correct way, without harming the environment. There are lots of clear license plates in these videos and still shots but enforcement chooses not to act on them.

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  4. So Matt, if the clips are not from the Pinelands why don’t you provide the exact locations so I can go there and verify your statements. That seems fair enough. Also, if Jeep told you you could drive off the top of a 100′ cliff because they think their vehicle can do it would you be willing to give it a try?

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  5. Kind of one-sided viewpoint on this web site. My wife and I have a jeep. We spend time hiking, kayaking and even jeeping in Wharton. We see boats, construction debris and Wawa coffee cups on the ground almost every time we visit Wharton. We have introduced our sons, grandson and granddaughters to the forest and to responsible use of nature while riding in the woods in our Jeep.
    We do not deserve to be denigrated in this manner just because we enjoy four-wheel drive access to the woods.
    Instead of posting these diatribes, why not get clear photos of the license plates and turn them over to the forest administration for follow up with law enforcement?

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  6. You know what’s most interesting about this video? That you include clips of other people cutting down trees, but not yourself. That’s a very interesting double-standard you have there. Everything OTHER people do is “damage,” but when you do exactly the same thing, it’s “preservation.” You’re not fooling anybody with your pious attitude about protecting the Pine Barrens, Mr. Horner. You’ve had it out for Jeepers for quite some time and you’re willing to turn them into villains regardless of what they do, but you’re not willing to hold yourself or your “friends” to that same standard when you and they run out and do things that are far more detrimental to the woods and the safety of those who use them than most of what you see in this video. Clearly, this isn’t about protecting the Pine Barrens for you, since your own actions and other YouTube videos of you seem to betray that intention. Instead, it seems that you just like the view from your high horse and enjoy telling other people what they can and can’t do, while holding yourself to a totally different standard.

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  7. I started exploring the Pine Barrens in the mid 60s to the mid 80s when I moved to Vermont. From the late 70’s until leaving the state I lived in Tabernacle and spent most weekends and several afternoons weekly in the Pines. In the 60s and early 70s you could spend the entire day out there and encounter few people. It was truly pristine. Towards the early 80s there were more visitors, usually families enjoying the lakes (Harrisville, Oswego), and canoeists. In the early 80s 4WD vehicles entered the scene. In a lot of cases the drivers of these vehicles were the pioneers of off road destruction.

    I revisited the Pines about 4 years ago. It was like coming back to a formerly peaceful, lovely neighborhood where you had many happy times, to find it turned into a ghetto. The State of NJ has known about this destruction for 30 years. I have no idea why they let things reach this point….almost the point of no return, but they better start enforcing their own laws before the Jewel of New Jersey is obliterated forever.

    As to the anti MAP folks, many of you are caring and respectful of the gift you have in the Pinelands Reserve. Unfortunately, there are many more who aren’t. The State is not obligated to get the consent of anyone to close off roads in order to protect the environment. After all these years it was people like Al, and organizations like the PPA who acted as the squeaky wheel to get things done. Where were all of you folks all these years when this destruction was happening? Today you will all be instrumental in determining the future of the Pine Barrens. Of the 3000 plus people who signed the petition against the MAP, there are hundreds of off roaders who are only interested in using the forest as their own personal motorcross park. This has to stop.

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  8. The State of New Jersey must act now to enforce their own laws to stop this criminal activity. It has been ongoing for at least thirty years with full knowledge of State authorities. I started visiting the Pine Barrens in the mid 1960s. I left the state for Vermont in 1986. On a return visit about 4 years ago it was akin to seeing the peaceful, lovely neighborhood where you spent many happy days turned into a ghetto. If you weren’t alive then you wouldn’t know, but trust me, there was nothing remotely like the wanton destruction that occurs now. Sickening.

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  9. I will be at the meeting tomorrow night at 6’30 at Hammonton HS. I am hoping that people will be there from Pinelands Preservation will be there as well. This has gone far enough and we have to make sure that the powers that be do the right thing.

    Len Eisenberg Somerdale, NJ

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  10. First off half of these on the video are not pinelands, lmao get your video clips from correct locations , numerous video clipe were private land because i know them well, second yes i disagree with drinking and drifting etc, but crossing water and climbing hills….. Thats not hurting anything, thats why jeep promotes “go anywhere you want” guess next you wanna sue them???? Or honda for atvs and off road vehicles. (Ps. Did i see a clip from 6 years ago woth Dave teti?)

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